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Same-sex parents – two mums
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There are more same-sex couple families than ever before in Australia. More than 10,000 children live with same-sex parents in this country, and a quarter of all female same-sex couples have children. If you are a same-sex couple, this article will help you consider the important questions about becoming a mum.
The options for becoming a parent
Same-sex families can be created in many different ways. One partner may have the baby, or you may choose to adopt. One or both of you may have children from a previous heterosexual relationship. Or you may have a co-parenting arrangement with a gay male couple.
If you are thinking of conceiving a child, there are several fertility options available.
The most common way for a woman in a same-sex relationship to become pregnant is to use donated sperm. Some women inseminate themselves at home, but many choose to be inseminated in a clinic using a process called intrauterine insemination (IUI). Sperm from a donor are injected directly into the womb and, hopefully, the woman will become pregnant. You don’t always need to take fertility drugs, and the procedure is quite quick and inexpensive. However, it doesn’t always work.
If you have fertility problems, in vitro fertilisation (IVF) is another option. This is when the sperm are introduced to the egg in the lab. The mother will need to take fertility drugs. IVF can be more expensive, and it also doesn’t always work.
Either way, you will need to find a sperm donor. This could be someone you know, or an unknown donor who has donated their sperm to a sperm bank.
If it is someone you know, think carefully about what you are looking for in a donor, what level of involvement you want him to have with the child, and why he would consider donating to you. Make sure you involve your partner in the discussions and give the potential donor plenty of time to think about it.
If you plan to use sperm from a sperm bank, the donor could be Australian or come from overseas. The sperm will have been carefully medically screened and the donor will have been told about his legal rights. Most assisted reproductive technology clinics can organise donated sperm for you.
If you are thinking about obtaining donor sperm from overseas, make sure you understand the laws and regulations of the country in question. Obtaining donor sperm from some countries could cause future problems both for you and the child, so it’s always better to think about local options if possible.
Deciding on roles
Same-sex female couples usually tend to parent equally. Because a lot of planning usually goes into having a baby in a same-sex couple, there's a lot of time to think about what it means to be a parent, what roles you will both have and who else will be involved in bringing up the child.
Research has shown that lesbian couples are more likely to share domestic duties and child care fairly than heterosexual couples. Both mums tend to have good quality relationships with the children.
There are different ways in which to involve the biological father or other men in family life. For example, the couple may use sperm donated by a friend who then plays a part in bringing up the child. Or they may introduce the children to fathers, brothers or other men as male role models.
Social and psychological issues
Research has shown that children who grow up in same-sex families do just as well emotionally, socially and educationally as other children.
Children who have two mums may even have added advantages: they often experience higher quality parenting and they grow up to be more open minded about diversity. They are also likely to feel secure, close to their parents, and able to talk to them.
Even though there is more support than ever for same-sex families in Australia, some same-sex couples and their children are worried about being teased or bullied. It’s the treatment by others rather than growing up with two mums that may affect the child’s wellbeing.
Children usually find their own way of explaining their family set-up to other people. If you think your child is being bullied, it's important to step in quickly. Schools and teachers are trained to deal with issues like this.
Work and legal issues
Under the law, a child born to a lesbian couple will usually have a birth mother and a lesbian co-mother. All states and territories legally recognise the co-mother in a lesbian relationship as the legal parent of children conceived during the course of the relationship. This means they have the same rights as heterosexual parents, for example, if they separate or divorce.
The sperm donor has no legal rights or responsibilities toward the child. The woman who gives birth to the child and her partner have full parental rights. When they turn 18, however, children conceived from a sperm donor have the right to information that identifies him.
Same-sex parents and their families have the same entitlements as everyone else. This includes, among other things, parental leave, tax, superannuation, social security and family assistance, the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme Safety Net and the Medicare Safety Net, immigration, citizenship, child support and family law.
If you are a same-sex parent, it's important to let Centrelink know. You will be assessed for entitlements in the same way as everyone else. Depending on your circumstances, you may be eligible for child support or Dad and partner pay. Visit the Department of Social Services for more information.
More information and support
- National LGBTI Health Alliance
- OUTspoken families: A resource kit for rainbow families
- PFLAG - Parents, Family and Friends of Lesbians and Gays
- QLife national counselling and referral service - call 1800 184 527
- Student Wellbeing Hub
Sources:
Australian Bureau of Statistics (Census of population and housing reflecting Australia), Medical Journal of Australia (What makes a same-sex parented family?), Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (UK) (Same sex couples), Victorian Assisted Reproductive Treatment Authority (Considering IVF, donor treatment or surrogacy overseas), Research Gate (Strengths and challenges in lesbian parenting), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Same-sex parented families in Australia), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Children's wellbeing in same-sex parented families), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Same-sex couple families in Australia), Raising Children (School-age bullying: helping your child), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Families, policy and the law), Australian Department of Social Services (Recognition of same-sex relationships)Learn more here about the development and quality assurance of healthdirect content.
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New fertility procedure allows 2 women to carry same baby, presents new choices for same-sex couples
DALLAS, Texas -- For the first time in history, two women have carried the same baby thanks to an amazing new medical advance.
"He's our miracle baby," said Ashleigh Coulter. The 28-year-old mother talked with WFAA in Dallas.
Baby Stetson has two doting moms.
"He's perfect," said Bliss Coutler, 36. "Our cute little cowboy."
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Bliss and Ashleigh met six years ago, fell in love, then came marriage.
"I wanted to be pregnant for so long and so bad," Ashleigh said as she sat beside her wife, Bliss.
"I always wanted to have a child," Bliss added. "I just didn't want to carry the child."
The couple knew that welcoming their own biological child would require a sperm donor, and some creativity.
"Obviously, us being two women, we were like how can we make this happen?" Ashleigh said. "We felt like there has to be a way."
It turned out, there was a way for both women to carry their own baby.
Fertility specialists Dr. Kathy Doody and husband Dr. Kevin Doody at the CARE Fertility in Bedford were the first to try reciprocal effortless In Vitro Fertilization using radical technology, which gave Bliss and Ashleigh a shot at motherhood.
"We were just talking one night at home and I said, 'You know, I think we could use this for a same-sex couple,'" Dr. Kathy recalled. "And Kevin said, 'I think you're right. I think we could.'"
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Here's how the process works. It starts like traditional IVF.
"Bliss went through the stimulation of her ovaries and the egg harvest," Kathy said.
Instead of placing the sperm and Bliss' eggs into incubators in a lab, which is called reciprocal IVF and has been carried out for same-sex couples for years, they go into the chamber of the INVOcell device immediately after egg retrieval. The device is placed into Bliss' body for five days where early embryo development begins.
"She got the embryo off to an early start," Kathy said. "The eggs fertilized in her body and when they returned five days later, we removed the device and froze the embryos."
Because embryos don't have livers, kidneys or lungs, traditionally, electromechanical devices like incubators are used in labs to remove toxins and try to maintain a supportive environment for the embryo.
"It turns out, not surprisingly, that the woman's own body is a very good incubator," Kathy said, clarifying how INVOcell works. "We have livers, kidneys and lungs so we're able to provide those same services to the embryo more naturally."
Next, it's Ashleigh's turn.
"Almost like passing the baton, like it's a relay race," Kathy said.
Doctors evaluated Ashleigh's uterus, gave her estrogen and then progesterone, waited for the right time and transferred her wife's embryos to her body. They got pregnant on the first try.
"She got to carry him for five days and was a big part of the fertilization, and then I carried him for nine months," Ashleigh said. "So that made it really special for the both of us-that we were both involved. She got to be a part of it, and I got to be a part of it."
The cost of effortless IVF using INVOcell is approximately half the cost of traditional IVF, which usually runs between $14,000 and $16,000 with medication.
Reciprocal effortless IVF, which is the process Bliss and Ashleigh underwent, is about $8,000 with medication, compared to traditional reciprocal IVF involving lab incubators that cost roughly $15,000 to $20,000.
Kathy responded to critics who may believe that this science is contrary to religious beliefs.
"Well, I would respectfully disagree with them," Kathy said. "I think that family, relationship, children is exactly everything that was meant to be in our world."
"It was everything I hoped it would be," Ashleigh said.
Stetson is a happy, healthy 5-month-old baby. Bliss and Ashleigh are busy with motherhood.
"No one really knew it was possible but it worked magnificently," Bliss said.
The couple have two additional frozen embryos from Bliss that they could use the same way unless Ashleigh wants to use her eggs next time because only Bliss' genes transferred to Stetson.
"I think it opens up new avenues, new choices for same sex couples," Kathy said.
Since Ashleigh's delivery, a second same-sex couple in North Texas went through the reciprocal effortless IVF process at CARE Fertility, got pregnant and delivered a healthy baby girl in September.
ROPA technique MOTHERHOOD IN LESBIAN, BISEXUAL AND TRANSEXUAL COUPLES
Thanks to advanced technology and individually tailored treatments, modern seminal models can achieve pregnancy. For example, the ROPA method allows same-sex female couples to actively participate in the fertilization process. One of them is the genetic mother of the child, and the other is the biological
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In vitro fertilization method ROPA (Use of partner eggs) or use of female partner's oocytes is one of the assisted reproduction techniques that allows married women of the same sex marriage to participate in fertilization and pregnancy.
One provides oocytes, which are inseminated with sperm from anonymous donor , while the other receives embryos and carries a child. As a result, after giving prior consent, there is a genetic mother and one who bears a child. nine0003
Lesbian motherhood: biological and social changes
Conception requires interaction within the female reproductive organs of two germ cells: one female and one male. If, due to gender identity or sexual orientation, this path is unacceptable for a woman, it is necessary to resort to artificial reproduction methods, because sexual orientation and the desire to have offspring should not necessarily be associated with these biological characteristics. nine0003
Today we meet with different types of families whose situations and desires require individual approach in each case, such as pregnancy between two women.
Instituto Bernabeu always takes into account the special needs of each patient and adapts the medical services and fertility treatment to provide a personalized in vitro fertilization procedure.
nine0066 Legal aspects of maternity for lesbian couples in SpainUnder current Spanish law: “A woman may use the methods regulated by this Law, regardless of her marital status and sexual orientation.” Therefore, the law enshrines the right to motherhood for all women, and more importantly, not only because of infertility.
Since 2007, Spanish law has allowed the registration of dual motherhood at the registry office. At the same time, children born using the ROPA method in a female same-sex couple are legally owned by both mothers only if their relationship is officially married. nine0003
If the women are unmarried, then the genetic mother (who did not bear a child) will have to start the process of adoption or adoption in order to be legally registered as a mother in the Civil Registry.
In the case of embryo freezing with the ROPA method (Use of Partner Oocytes), if there is no medical indication for transfer only to the partner who has already received the embryo/s for the first time, the frozen embryos can be transferred to either of them in the subsequent cycle so how women are married and embryos are shared. nine0003
IVF ROPA or dual motherhood (use of female partner's eggs)
), we offer a new alternative to co-motherhood - the ROPA method with partner egg retrieval.
Currently, although this technique is not mandated by law, one can resort to the ROPA (Reception of Oocytes from PArtner) method, or the use of female partner oocytes, which allows two women of the same sex marriage to participate in insemination and pregnancy. One provides oocytes, which are inseminated with sperm from an anonymous donor, and the other receives embryos to conceive. As a result, after the provision of prior consent, there is a genetic mother and one who bears a child. For this purpose, since 2007, Spanish law has allowed the registration of dual motherhood in the Civil Registry in the case of same-sex marriages. In this regard, children born in Spain using the ROPA method will be the children of two mothers from a legal point of view. nine0003
How is IVF ROPA carried out?
ROPA is conventional in vitro fertilization (IVF) adapted to the reproductive needs of lesbian families. First of all, it is necessary to examine both patients in order to develop an individually tailored treatment method in accordance with their state of health. Then, the ovaries are stimulated to obtain a sufficient number of embryos and thus increase the chances of conceiving a child. At the same time, the recipient partner goes through the process of preparing the uterus for the transfer and implantation of the embryo. As soon as the maturation of oocytes (oocytes) is established, the cells are punctured and aspirated. After that, the egg is fertilized in the laboratory with the donor's sperm from our sperm bank. And then, we culture the embryos under close supervision and do the transfer on the 5th or 6th day. Thus, we manage to transfer embryos to the blastocyst stage, optimizing the chances of pregnancy. The following months of pregnancy will develop like any other pregnancy, allowing both women to enjoy this happiness. nine0003
In addition, epigenetics has shown that environmental factors and the lifestyle of a pregnant woman marks and determines the expression of the genes of the unborn child. Therefore, it is also genetically involved in the development of the child.
Any method of reproductive treatment (IVF, adoption of embryos or ROPA) has an emotional impact. Therefore, to help our patients walk this path, the Instituto Bernabeu offers, on request and at no extra charge, sessions with a psychologist, with which expectant mothers will be prepared for the possible emotions during each stage of the process and pregnancy. nine0003
ROPA Sperm Donors - Strict Selection
To ensure maximum confidence and assurance during ROPA procedures, the selection of the most suitable donor involves comprehensive medical, physical and psychological tests and examinations.
The selection process for the most suitable sperm donor is very rigorous. It corresponds to the responsibility we take on in connection with the trust of our patients. That is why, when donating, we perform examinations and tests beyond those required by law. Due to the rigorous nature of the tests, only a small percentage of candidates are eligible for inclusion in our sperm bank. Only 9% of candidates undergo strict psychological, genetic and medical mandatory tests.
Modern technological advances allow us to perform additional analyzes providing a high degree of assurance. In addition to the tests provided, when donating, we carry out a study of sexually transmitted diseases, a genetic analysis of the 600 or 3000 most serious diseases that can be transmitted to the child and, among other things, a PCR blood test, which can be used to re-check the serology in the moment of sampling, since the diagnosis is obtained in just a few minutes. And all this at no additional cost. nine0003
We are proud to have helped thousands of women in Cartagena give birth to babies .
Over the years, we have gradually introduced and continue to introduce new technologies, offering our patients the most advanced treatments and therapies.
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Lesbian couple took turns carrying their baby for the first time
In the US, lesbian couples became the first same-sex couple to take turns carrying their child. This was made possible thanks to the new IVF technology, in which the embryo is placed not in an incubator, but in a woman's body. The boy was born perfectly healthy, and soon another lesbian couple repeated this experience.
A Texas lesbian couple took turns carrying the same baby. This is the first such case in medical practice, according to publication ABC . nine0003
Ashley, 28, and Bliss Coulter, 36, met six years ago and married in 2015. They both expected to have a child in the future, while Bliss wanted him to be biologically hers, but the prospect of walking pregnant did not attract her.
Usually, in the case of lesbian couples, donor sperm is used, with which doctors fertilize one of the women, and after the birth of the child, the second adopts him.
But since the eggs were to be taken from Bliss and Ashley was going to carry the baby, this was not an option for them. nine0003
From acquaintances they learned about a new IVF method, practiced in only one clinic. Usually, during IVF, fertilized eggs are placed in an incubator for several days, after which they are transferred to the uterine cavity. But reproductologists Katie and Kevin Doody have developed a new technology - with it, fertilization occurs in a special plastic capsule, which is then immediately placed in the body of the expectant mother. There, the embryo is warm and protected from external influences. Then, a few days later, the embryo is removed from the capsule and transferred to the uterus. nine0003
This approach makes it possible to reduce the cost of IVF by more than half, as it eliminates the need for incubation of the embryo in the laboratory. It is necessary, because the embryo does not yet have the internal organs - the liver, kidneys and lungs - necessary for the elimination of toxins.
“It turns out, not surprisingly, that a woman's own body is a very good incubator,” explains Cathy Doody. “We have a liver, kidneys and lungs, so we can provide the same services to the embryo, but in a more natural way. ” nine0003
The new method has been practiced as recently as 2015. Usually, the same woman becomes both the egg donor and the mother. But in the case of Bliss and Ashley, the capsule was first in Bliss's body, and then the embryo was placed in Ashley's uterus.
“This case is special - two women carried their child together,” says Doody. “Everyone contributed to this pregnancy.”
“When we talked to Doody, she was very confident that she could do it. She gave us hope. It was very exciting,” says Ashley. “The idea that we could both bear a child was hers, she suggested insemination inside Bliss's body. We laughed and I said - wow, so she will carry him too. nine0003
Bliss underwent ovarian stimulation, her cells were fertilized with donor sperm and placed in a capsule. The capsule remained in Bliss's body for five days, until the fertilized eggs developed into the blastocyst stage. The embryo was then frozen and Ashley began preparing for the pregnancy. When she began her period, she received hormonal drugs designed to trick the body. The doctors then implanted one embryo into her uterus. And after 10 days, the pregnancy was confirmed from the first time. nine0003
“Bliss jokes that she has golden eggs,” Ashley laughs.
9 months later, in June 2018, she gave birth to a healthy boy weighing 3,700. The couple named their son Stetson.
“The moment he was born, I felt like the happiest person in the world because he was perfect,” recalls Ashley. “When I look at him, I see my wife in him. It's priceless".
Although the couple is extremely happy with one child, Ashley hopes that she can talk Bliss into having a second one - they still have two frozen embryos left. nine0003
Dr. Doody notes that the method of insemination used allows lesbian couples to have a unique bond with their children and makes pregnancy more natural. Previously, she and her husband practiced it only for heterosexual couples.
“We were talking at home one evening and I said, you know, we could use this for same-sex couples too.