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There are more same-sex couple families than ever before in Australia. More than 10,000 children live with same-sex parents in this country, and 1 in 20 male same-sex couples has children. If you are in a same-sex couple, this article will help you consider the important questions about becoming a dad.
The options for becoming a parent
Same-sex families can be created in many different ways. For example, a bisexual man may have a baby with a heterosexual woman. One or both of you may have children from a previous heterosexual relationship, or you may decide to adopt. A gay couple may have a co-parenting arrangement with a lesbian couple. Or a gay man can donate sperm to a single woman or same-sex female couple to have a baby.
These days, more same-sex male couples are creating their own families through surrogacy. There are two types. Full or gestational surrogacy is when a fertilised donor egg is implanted into a surrogate through in vitro fertilisation (IVF). The surrogate has no genetic connection to the baby. For legal reasons, this is the only type of surrogacy that many clinics in Australia will be involved in. Partial or traditional surrogacy is when the surrogate’s own egg is fertilised by the man’s sperm. This can be done at home or in an overseas clinic.
The surrogate can be someone you know, who may then be involved in the child’s life, or someone else. In Australia, commercial surrogacy is against the law, although you can pay a surrogate’s medical expenses. You cannot advertise for a surrogate or pay someone to find a surrogate for you.
Some men find a surrogate overseas, but this can be quite expensive. It’s also very important to understand the laws and regulations of the overseas country before you enter into any arrangement with a surrogate.
For more information on surrogacy, visit the Victorian Assisted Reproductive Treatment Authority website.
Deciding on roles
Same-sex male couples tend to share parenting more equally than many heterosexual couples. Because a lot of planning usually goes into having a baby with a same-sex couple, there’s time to think about what it means to be a parent, what roles you will both have and who else will be involved in bringing up the child.
Research has shown that gay couples are more likely to share domestic duties and childcare fairly than heterosexual couples. Gay dads may be more involved in their children’s lives than heterosexual dads. Being a father can also raise your self-esteem and give you a sense of fulfilment.
There are different ways to involve the biological mother or other women in family life. For example, you may introduce the children to mothers, sisters or friends as female role models.
Social and psychological issues
Research has shown that children who grow up in same-sex families do as well emotionally, socially and educationally as any other children.
But even though there is more support than ever for same-sex families in Australia, some same-sex couples and their children are worried about being teased or bullied. It’s the stigma of others rather than growing up with two dads that can affect children’s wellbeing.
Surrounding your family with plenty of supportive friends, families and same-sex organisations and communities can help your family navigate discrimination.
Children usually find their own way of explaining their family set-up to other people. If you think your child is being bullied, it’s important to step in quickly. Schools and teachers are trained to deal with issues like this.
Work and legal issues
It’s important to obtain legal advice before you enter into any surrogacy arrangement.
Altruistic surrogacy (when the surrogate mother does not receive any financial compensation) is legal in Australia. However, the law does not obligate a birth mother to surrender the child. Sometimes a court may transfer legal parental rights to the commissioning parents.
The way in which Australian law applies to children born to surrogates overseas is sometimes confusing and there have even been cases where children have been left without legally-defined parents. Sometimes, commissioning parents will need to apply to the Family Court for parenting orders.
If you donated sperm to a woman, you have no legal rights or responsibilities concerning the child. The woman who gives birth to the child and her partner have full parental rights. When they turn 18, children conceived from a sperm donor have the right to information that identifies you.
Same-sex parents and their families have the same entitlements as everyone else when it comes to parental leave, tax, superannuation, social security and family assistance, child support and family law. They also have identical entitlements to the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme Safety Net and the Medicare Safety Net, immigration and citizenship.
If you are a same-sex parent, it’s important to let Centrelink know. You will be assessed for entitlements in the same way as everyone else. Depending on your circumstances, you may be eligible for child support or Dad and partner pay. Visit the Department of Social Services for more information.
More information and support
- National LGBTI Health Alliance
- OUTspoken families: A resource kit for rainbow families
- PFLAG – Parents, Family and Friends of Lesbians and Gays
- QLife (National counselling and referral service - call 1800 184 527
- Student Wellbeing Hub
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Australian Bureau of Statistics (Census of population and housing reflecting Australia), Medical Journal of Australia (What makes a same-sex parented family?), Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (UK) (Same sex couples), Victorian Assisted Reproductive Treatment Authority (Considering IVF, donor treatment or surrogacy overseas), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Same-sex parented families in Australia), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Children's wellbeing in same-sex parented families), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Same-sex couple families in Australia), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Social support), Raising Children (School-age bullying: helping your child), Australian Institute of Family Studies (Families, policy and the law), Australian Department of Social Services (Recognition of same-sex relationships)Learn more here about the development and quality assurance of healthdirect content.
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For gay parents, first comes the baby — then comes the debt
Oscar-winning screenwriter Dustin Lance Black and his husband, British Olympic diver Tom Daley, announced on Valentine’s Day that they’re expecting their first child. But while there are more options than ever for same-sex couples looking to expand their families, it’s not a simple — or affordable — endeavor for many.
Whether it be through surrogacy, artificial insemination or adoption, gay couples in the U.S. face a series of hurdles — some more complicated and expensive than others — in order to have kids. Along with the challenges, however, there are a number of resources available to help them along their journey.
SURROGACY: ERIK AND ADAM
Los Angeles couple Erik and Adam McEwen sat anxiously in a hospital waiting area this past November. In a nearby room, Erik’s sister-in-law, Corrin, was giving birth to the men’s twin daughters. Corrin volunteered to be their surrogate and was impregnated through in vitro fertilization (IVF). A female friend of the couple had donated her eggs, which were fertilized with their sperm.
Erik, right, and Adam.Ana BrandtThe couple could not be present for the birth of their daughters, Erik said, because hospital rules only permitted one person in the delivery room. Erik said he and Adam wanted Corrin’s husband, Erik’s brother, to be by her side to support her.
Not being able to see the birth of their daughters was disappointing, the couple said. But their disappointment quickly dissipated once the newborns were in their arms.
“It got the best of me,” Erik recalled, saying he burst into tears upon holding his daughters. “I was a blubbering idiot.”
Erik, a hairstylist, and Adam, a musician, said their dream family likely would not have become a reality had their female friend and Erik’s sister-in-law not volunteered to help them.
“I don’t think we could have done it otherwise, mainly because it costs so much money,” Erik said. “That’s just something that would not have been possible.”
Erik said the process cost him and Adam upwards of $65,000. Corrin’s insurance covered OB-GYN-related care, but Erik and Adam paid for fertility treatments (including IVF), legal fees related to the surrogacy process and their daughters’ hospital care immediately following their birth.
“We go into the nursery area, and there is a woman there basically with a credit card machine and paperwork for us to give them money immediately, and so it kind of took away from that first moment with your baby,” Erik explained.
While the cost of childbirth can vary greatly, even for heterosexual couples, hospital deliveries in the U.S. cost on average $3,800 per stay, according to a 2011 report from the Agency for Healthcare Research.
Most couples who go through surrogacy do not have the luxury of both a volunteer surrogate and egg donor, according to Amanda Hopping-Winn, chief program officer for the Family Equality Council, an advocacy organization for LGBTQ families. When a paid surrogate and egg donor are involved, she said the cost easily exceeds $100,000.
Hopping-Winn also noted there are many legal hurdles involved with surrogacy, and she advised couples pursuing this route to work with a lawyer and enter into a contract with a surrogate to ensure they are recognized as legal parents before they even begin the process.
Surrogacy laws vary widely from state to state, and Hopping-Winn said it is crucial to be aware of this national patchwork of laws.
“There are some states like, let’s say New York, where surrogacy agreements throughout the state are void and unenforceable, and if they find out that you do have a surrogacy contract, you are subject to fines,” she explained.
If a couple lives in a state that does not permit surrogacy or enforce surrogacy contracts, Hopping-Winn said they should use a surrogacy agency in a state that does. Most surrogacy agencies, she added, are connected with legal groups that can assist couples through the process.
ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION: DAKERRI & SONDRA
Pregnancy is usually less complicated for lesbian couples, Hopping-Winn said, but it can still be costly. Many lesbian couples get pregnant through artificial insemination with donated sperm, which can cost several thousand dollars and require additional legal steps not necessary for heterosexual parents.
If two women choose to have a baby using reciprocal in vitro fertilization, where one partner is impregnated with the fertilized egg of the other partner, the process can be more costly. On average, the cost of a basic IVF cycle in the U.S. is between $12,000 and $15,000, according Internet Health Resources.
Dakerri and Sondra.Courtesy of Dakerri and Sondra Barber-RhomeDakerri and Sondra Barber-Rhone, a married lesbian couple living in Nashville, said they spent about $6,000 out-of-pocket on their pregnancy. Dakerri, who carried the baby, said her insurance covered only a portion of the costs.
“Financially, it was pretty difficult,” Dakerri said. She and her wife used artificial insemination with donor sperm to get pregnant but did not do IVF. She said it took four attempts to get pregnant, which added to the price tag.
The cost, she said, was well worth the outcome. After 14 hours of labor in the spring of 2016, she gave birth to a healthy baby boy.
“It was incredible,” Dakerri said. “As soon as I saw him,” she added, “it was just an instant connection.”
ADOPTION: JAMIE & BO
Same-sex partners that want to have children solely through adoption may also face unique challenges. While there are no states that explicitly prohibit same-sex adoption, seven states permit state-licensed child welfare agencies to refuse to place children with LGBTQ families if doing so directly conflicts with their religious beliefs, according to the Movement Advancement Project, an LGBTQ think tank.
Jamie, right, and Bo.Courtesy of Jamie and Bo NaboznyLuckily for Jamie and Bo Nabozny, their state is not one of those seven. The Minneapolis couple was able to adopt four brothers, ages 9, 10, 12 and 13, through Minnesota’s foster care system. Jamie said they found an LGBTQ-affirming adoption agency in the state in 2015 that guided them through the process.
“Picking the right agency is the number one thing that’s going to make a difference in the success and … ease [of] the adoption,” Jamie said. He and his husband adopted their children through a free state program called Minnesota’s Waiting Children.
While Jamie and Bo are the boys’ legal parents, they said they worry about what might happen when traveling outside of Minnesota. Whenever they travel, Jamie said they bring their sons’ birth certificates and adoption papers so they can prove they are their legal guardians.
“I don’t think most families think about bringing birth certificates along,” Jamie said. “That’s something that we have to think about and worry about, because we don’t want to run in to an issue where people question who we are or our relationship to the children. ”
ADOPTION WITH SURROGACY & ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION
Even when a married same-sex couple has children through pregnancy — either via a surrogate or using donated sperm — experts recommend that the parent who does not have a biological connection to the child pursue adoption. Hopping-Winn said doing so protects the rights of the non-biological parent if the biological parent dies, if the couple gets divorced or when the family travels, among other circumstances.
“More and more states are allowing two moms or two dads to be on the birth certificate, but at the end of the day, a birth certificate is more a birth announcement,” Hopping-Winn added. “It doesn’t establish parentage — it generally is not as relevant in a court of law if there are issues.”
Parental rights for same-sex couples are determined by state laws, which vary widely, according to Beth Littrell, an attorney for the LGBTQ nonprofit Lambda Legal. She said same-sex couples face certain challenges that heterosexual couples do not.
In cases where anonymous sperm is donated to a lesbian couple, for instance, courts may decide the sperm donor has parental rights that have to be extinguished before a legal adoption can take place, Littrell explained.
“[The laws] were really written before reproductive technology became as advanced as it is,” she explained. “So the laws recognize biology and privilege a biological relationship in a pretty strong way.”
Even though Dakerri’s wife is listed on her son’s birth certificate, she is making plans to adopt him as a step-parent. The couple has concerns about what might happen if Dakerri dies or if they travel to a place where Sondra’s parentage may come under question.
“It feels like it’s a lot of extra steps that we shouldn’t have to take that a lot of other families don’t have to take,” said Dakerri, who said it’s “annoying” and “insulting” that her wife has to adopt their son.
Erik and Adam are both listed as parents on their daughters’ birth certificates, but they said that won’t be enough to ensure their parental rights. Sperm from each man was used to fertilize two eggs, they explained, which means they will each have to adopt the child they are not biologically related to.
“It just doesn’t feel like it ends,” Adam said. “I just want to enjoy my family and my children, but then there’s still things we have to think about and do to solidify everything.”
RESOURCES FOR LGBTQ FAMILIES
Resources for LGBTQ families and family planning are becoming more common, whether they’re through nonprofit advocacy groups or through other families documenting their journeys on social media.
Dakerri and Sondra said organizations like the Family Equality Council were great resources for them when they decided to start a family. They now have their own YouTube channel, “Two Mom Diaries,” where they document life raising their son.
“We realized that we could make a bigger impact, because through our journey we could help people deal with things that we were going through,” Dakerri said.
Erik said blogs like Gays With Kids, a popular site for gay dads, is a great resource, and he also noted there are many Facebook groups that are helpful for connecting with other same-sex families.
“I’m so happy that I was able to get so much information,” Erik said. “It helped me cope with everything a little more. It helped me feel prepared.”
Erik and Adam also have a YouTube channel, “McHusbands,” which follows their fatherhood journey. Erik said their channel, which has nearly 90,000 followers, helps them connect with other same-sex parents.
All three couples had the same overarching advice for same-sex couples who are considering expanding their family: Do your research. Talking to same-sex parents, researching adoption agencies in one’s state and knowing state laws regarding surrogacy, artificial insemination and adoption were among their specific tips.
In a 2015 report, the Williams Institute at UCLA estimated 122,000 same-sex couples in the U.S. were raising children under age 18. The report, which was based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2013 American Community Survey, found nearly 27,000 of these same-sex couples were raising an estimated 58,000 adopted and foster children.
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Gay couples and single men are 21 times more likely than 6 years ago to use reproductive technology to pass on their genes to their own child. To do this, they resort to the services of egg donors and a surrogate mother, Canadian scientists found out.
Modern society in many countries is becoming more tolerant towards people of non-traditional sexual orientation, including their desire to have children. Not all of them are ready to adopt a child, many prefer to give birth to their own. The number of men who resort to reproductive technologies for this has increased 21 times in five years. Such data are provided by the authors articles in Reproductive BioMedicine Online . Experts from the University of Toronto and several biomedical organizations in Canada have studied statistics on this issue since 2003.
The motives that drive homosexual and single men to desire fatherhood are no different from the motives of heterosexual men - this is the desire to find a family and raise their own children, to whom they pass their genes.
Under the supervision of Canadian specialists were 37 male homosexual couples and eight single men who, from the beginning of 2003 to the end of 2011, turned to CReATe, a reproductive center in Toronto, for help. In order to have genetically their children, such men needed egg donors and a surrogate mother for bearing.
And the first result is that in five years there were 21 times more such men: if in 2003-2006 one homosexual couple and one single man applied for such a service, then in 2007-2011 - 36 couples and seven single men.
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Men could use spermatozoa from one or both partners to conceive a child.
The majority (76%) of couples chose the second option - in this case, which of them becomes the genetic father of the child is determined by chance.
24% decided to conceive a child from one partner, and in most cases it was the older partner.
In terms of egg donors, the majority (87%) chose an anonymous donor, and 13% chose a woman known to them as a donor. Of those who preferred anonymity, 67.5% of men chose the option according to which the child in the future (on reaching the age of 18) will meet his biological mother.
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Pedophiles Mark Newton and Peter Truen made a child a porn actor
"This is the worst sexual crime I've ever heard of," admitted US Attorney Brian Bon. And it looks like he's right.
On Monday Pavel Astakhov, Commissioner for Children's Rights under the President of the Russian Federation, reported on a wild story, the main victim of which was a child born by a surrogate mother from Russia. By the way, where he was born, what name and citizenship he has, is still unknown.
In 2005, American Mark Newton and his longtime boyfriend from New Zealand Peter Truen persuaded a certain Russian woman to bear their child for 8,000 dollars. After that, same-sex "parents" began to rape him and shoot him in porn films. Moreover, according to the Australian newspaper Kiama Independent, the first abuse of a baby was committed two weeks after his birth.
The baby was growing up (dads decided to settle in the Australian city of Cairns), sexual violence and filming continued. The kid was taught that this is a common thing, and taught how to talk to the guardianship authorities and others so as not to arouse any suspicion.
“The child was the victim of at least eight more pedophiles in France, Germany and the United States, where he was specially brought to shoot porn films,” Pavel Astakhov tweeted. - Russian orphans have always attracted foreign perverts because of their availability. By forbidding foreign adoption, we put up a barrier for the rascals."
At the same time, the children's ombudsman recalled that this was not the first such case in the United States - in 2005, a story surfaced with a pedophile Matthew Mancuso, who for several years raped and filmed his adopted daughter Masha Allen (Yaschenkova) in porn films. He then received 35 years in prison.
The same pedophiles were identified by the police in 2011 during regular “tours” in the USA. The arrested perverts shouted that they were being pursued by homophobes. “Being a father is a great honor for me. Those were the best years of my life,” 42-year-old Mark Newton said in court. As a result, the court sentenced him to 40 years in prison. He must also transfer $400,000 to the boy's account. His partner Peter Truen is now awaiting sentencing in New Zealand.
“The injured adopted Russian boy has been transferred to an American foster family,” Astakhov said.
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